Microsoft Flight Simulator returns - The rebirth of the beloved franchise.

[WarHawK]

Hopefully more details will come out regarding add-on support and multiplayer server support. If that criteria is met, we all may have a new, permanent home. I will post more details about this as they are available from Microsoft with confirmation of features.


"Microsoft Flight Simulator is the next generation of one of the most beloved simulation franchises. From light planes to wide-body jets, fly highly detailed and stunning aircraft in an incredibly realistic world. Create your flight plan and fly anywhere on the planet. Enjoy flying day or night and face realistic, challenging weather conditions."

[Novawing24]

It is for PC not X-Box as per the launch announcement: https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1137821843031592960

The sky's the limit in Microsoft Flight Simulator for PC.

[Lazerbolt]

That looks amazing.

[Novawing24]

Quite a lot of information has been gleaned from the trailer and from the title's official website. More info here: https://novawing24.com/2019/06/guess...-sim-business/

TL;DR...

- Native 4K Resolution Support

- Full world available at launch

- Confirmed for PC Windows 10
- The sim will feature a range of aircraft including wide bodies and light aircraft. - - Seen in the trailer were:
- Socata-Daher TBM900
- Boeing 737 (700 or 800 or 900 series)
- Airbus A320NEO
- Icon A5
- Piper PA28 (possibly from internal view)
- Diamond DA62
- Carbon Cub (Tundra Tyres)
- Cessna Caravan 208
- Mudry CAP10

[Karl]

Wonder if they will stick with their ESP flight dynamics or give XP a run for their money.

[ROBERT DUNN 2]

Thanks, WarHawk. Appreciate the likelihood of additional info, Nova. If it runs on PC, I'm in at launch.

[Kalo]

That looks really promising...finally modern graphics in a flight simulator!

[Novawing24]

Some interesting information announced right before the MSFS announcement, Xbox Game Pass for PC.

It appears to be similar to the Origin Access program from EA offering a range of games free for use that will rotate on a regular basis. MSFS is tagged to be available first on this service, hopefully they won't enforce Xbox Live subscription for multiplayer!

https://youtu.be/73kSvsQ_kkA?t=1890

[Travis]

I hope we are able to purchase it instead of a monthly subscription if we want. I think the game pass may bring people to flight sim that may otherwise not have tried it though. It sounds like the Xbox Live subscription won't be required, but who knows.

[Wingman]

Following to see if there's any mention of VR support.

Edit/Addition:
Russ seems to think it's part of a $14.99/mo subscription service, as Nova was referencing.
https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/...ght-simulator/ ...Yup -- AVweb again...
... Russ also thinks E3 is Microsoft's conference. https://www.e3expo.com/about-esa

[Lazerbolt]

From what I've seen on my Xbox one, games that are available on the "Xbox game pass" are also available to purchase. Hopefully this is the case here.

[Trixter36]

Looks Amazing!

[ak416]

From what I've seen on my Xbox one, games that are available on the "Xbox game pass" are also available to purchase. Hopefully this is the case here.

Yep, this will almost certainly be the case. There have been a lot of rumours surrounding the "subscription service", but it should also be available to purchase separately. I say should because anything could change, but at the time of writing this post there are no "subscription only" games as part of the Xbox Game Pass, each and every title available on the service is also available to purchase separately.

Think of Xbox Game Pass as Netflix. You pay a monthly fee and are granted access to a library of content, and you have access to that content as long as your subscription is active. That library of content might change from month to month or year to year. However, Microsoft has already committed to launching all of their first party titles on Xbox Game Pass, day and date with retail copies, so I would expect their first party titles to be the staples of the service, while the 3rd party titles cycle in and out on a more frequent basis.

Wingman, in the article that you posted, Russ states that Flight Simulator is "part of a new gaming system for Xbox that will stream games in the console or on PCs." and I just wanted to specify that, as it stands currently, you are downloading the entirety of the game and DLC to your PC or console, you are not streaming the game content as you would Netflix or something like Google's Stadia or Sony's PlayStation Now service. You are basically granted a license to that game for the period of your subscription and it is no different than purchasing it outright.

Nova, at the moment, Microsoft does not require a Live subscription for multiplayer on PC. I don't think that's likely to change anytime soon, so lets keep our fingers crossed that it stays that way!

I would also be surprised if this didnt launch on Xbox and PC at the same time, or at least the same window. From my understanding, games and apps on the Xbox One and Windows 10 are both "UWP" apps and are mostly compatible with each other, meaning if it works on one it should work on the other, or at the very least be "portable" with minimal effort. I could be way off base, but that's my understanding of it.

This is a very exciting trailer and I can't wait to see more! The weather, the night lighting, the performance, the Cubs! All look very promising. Here's hoping they can deliver.

[Wingman]

I'm not a console gamer... not since N64, at least... so I have to wonder: How in the world does an Xbox controller have enough buttons, triggers, d-pads, etc. to effectively simulate flying in anything but the most basic of VFR circumstances??

And, would/could an Xbox MSFS2020 user be Discord-ing while Xbox-ing?

[ak416]

I'm not a console gamer... not since N64, at least... so I have to wonder: How in the world does an Xbox controller have enough buttons, triggers, d-pads, etc. to effectively simulate flying in anything but the most basic of VFR circumstances??

So I used 360 controller to play Flight from release until whenever we moved over to FSX, and used it with FSX for somewhere between 6 months and a year before finally getting a joystick. I actually prefer the 360 controller for Flight but didnt find it ideal for FSX. It's tricky but I think you would be surprised by how well it works. I used triggers for rudders, left and right d-pad for flaps extend/retract, d-pad up and down for elevator trim, X was wheel brakes, B was throttle down, Y was throttle up, A was interact, left stick was pitch and roll, right was hat switch and I can't recall what I used the shoulder buttons or the LS/RS buttons for. Anything more technical than that required the keyboard and mouse, but for actually flying I think it works really well and is super comfortable.

The Xbox One also has keyboard and mouse support so there is nothing stopping them from allowing console players to plug in a keyboard and or mouse.

And, would/could an Xbox MSFS2020 user be Discord-ing while Xbox-ing?

Yes, Xbox One has Discord support. First party Microsoft games on Xbox One and PC also have cross-play, so PC players can play online with console users and vice versa.