I would like to know if there is a way for me to change the time when i set up my flight on your servers. I work mostly during the day, so that usually leaves me time to fly late at night. Most of the time, when I set up a flight, the time that loads up is at night. I only fly in the U.S., so the server time is accurate for the time I am flying. But I don't like flying at night, at least not very often. Is there any way I can change the time I fly inn when I'm connected to your servers? I really like flying here, especially during the group flights. But if, when I fly on my own time, it is always going to be dark outside, I probably won't stick around too long. What can we do?
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Most of the time our servers are set to -6 or -7 hours in relation to the real time. This will be altered from time to time for some group flights. I don't know if this however is the case here. The reason you stated is the exact reason we set it to the time of -7 hours. By looking at the server map it looks like the time is accurate and how it should be. I don't think it will be pushed anymore one way or another. But you are more than welcome to try.
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I'm surprised to hear that you're flying in the dark, because as Travis implied, the servers are usually set so that our North American pilots (myself included) can fly in daylight after we get home from work -- you seem to be in that same boat (err, plane?), so you should see daylight like we do.
On which server/platform do you fly? (FSX:Boxed Edition server? One of our FSX:Steam Edition servers?)
Travis mentioned the map on the msFlights.net home page. It shows you the current daylight status on the FSX Boxed edition server only. Developers are currently working on a Steam version of that map, which I hope we can incorporate into the website soon! Nonetheless, the North America (NA) Steam server should have its time set similarly to the Boxed Edition server.
Also, how late into the evening for you (Pacific Daylight Time) do you fly? In Travis's example of the server being set to real-time-minus-7-hours, midnight for you should look like 5:00 pm over your house in the server (still daylight). This does mean that it's going to look like 8:00 pm in New York on the server (dark) at midnight your-real-time. More daylight will be had further west, of course -- Alaska & Hawaii if you like flying in the US with FAA-based charts/etc.
P.S.- When it does go dark in the US and I still want to fly day VFR, my go-to destination is Australia/New Zealand. There are some great scenery add-on options for the area! Often the United Kingdom serves as an alternate choice for me as well.Take the time, a second to soar; for soon after, beckons a second more.
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Many times I'm not on till after midnight pacific time. And, yes, it is usually dark when I connect, otherwise I wouldn't be complaining about it. I usually get off from work at 10pm, get home a little after 11pm, and I'm usually not ready to fly till after 12 or 1:00am. By then, the servers give me a night indication on the map, and sure enough, when I log on, I am in the dark. And I don't really want this to come across as a complaint. I was merely asking if there is any way for me to change the time, or if there is any way you can disable forcing the time on the server. I fly FSX-boxed and steam and P3D. And as far as having a go-to destination where it is light, I do not wish to fly in other countries. I live in the US, and I prefer to fly in the US. I will occasionally fly in other countries during group flights, but that is not where I prefer to fly. And I understand how to use the map to see where the light is, and understand how the -7 hours affects the time across the country. I get that. For your posts to question me like you have makes me feel like you think I don't know what I'm talking about. You clearly don't understand what I was asking. I even stated that what I see when I log on is accurate to what your map is showing, so I know to expect night time where I want to fly. I was only asking if there is any way I can change the sim time on my end to give me daylight when connecting to your server gives me night time. That is all I was asking. I don't need a lecture on how the map works on msFlights.net home page, or what time the servers are set to, or where I can fly when it is dark where I wanted to fly, especially across multiple posts
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Originally posted by N85988 View PostI don't need a lecture on how the map works on msFlights.net home page, or what time the servers are set to, or where I can fly when it is dark where I wanted to fly, especially across multiple posts
I think the initial question was itself more than reasonable as was the manner it was asked . It can be frustrating to always be flying in the dark. As we near winter that will only get worse.
On the other hand I don't feel that the tone of the lecture comment was warranted. This is an issue we've dealt with many times. The responses of the other members were sincere attempts to offer comprehensive assistance in the form of details and anticipation of additional questions that our answers historically have lead to. I don't believe that you should conclude that your feeling of being slighted or talked down to was actually the case in this instance.
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Originally posted by N85988 View PostI would like to know if there is a way for me to change the time when i set up my flight on your servers. ...... What can we do?
Originally posted by Travis View PostMost of the time our servers are set to -6 or -7 hours in relation to the real time. This will be altered from time to time for some group flights. I don't know if this however is the case here. The reason you stated is the exact reason we set it to the time of -7 hours. By looking at the server map it looks like the time is accurate and how it should be. I don't think it will be pushed anymore one way or another. But you are more than welcome to try.
Originally posted by Wingman View PostI'm surprised to hear that you're flying in the dark, because as Travis implied, the servers are usually set so that our North American pilots (myself included) can fly in daylight after we get home from work -- you seem to be in that same boat (err, plane?), so you should see daylight like we do.
On which server/platform do you fly? (FSX:Boxed Edition server? One of our FSX:Steam Edition servers?)
Travis mentioned the map on the msFlights.net home page. It shows you the current daylight status on the FSX Boxed edition server only. Developers are currently working on a Steam version of that map, which I hope we can incorporate into the website soon! Nonetheless, the North America (NA) Steam server should have its time set similarly to the Boxed Edition server.
Also, how late into the evening for you (Pacific Daylight Time) do you fly? In Travis's example of the server being set to real-time-minus-7-hours, midnight for you should look like 5:00 pm over your house in the server (still daylight). This does mean that it's going to look like 8:00 pm in New York on the server (dark) at midnight your-real-time. More daylight will be had further west, of course -- Alaska & Hawaii if you like flying in the US with FAA-based charts/etc.
P.S.- When it does go dark in the US and I still want to fly day VFR, my go-to destination is Australia/New Zealand. There are some great scenery add-on options for the area! Often the United Kingdom serves as an alternate choice for me as well.
Originally posted by N85988 View PostMany times I'm not on till after midnight pacific time. And, yes, it is usually dark when I connect, otherwise I wouldn't be complaining about it. I usually get off from work at 10pm, get home a little after 11pm, and I'm usually not ready to fly till after 12 or 1:00am. By then, the servers give me a night indication on the map, and sure enough, when I log on, I am in the dark. And I don't really want this to come across as a complaint. I was merely asking if there is any way for me to change the time, or if there is any way you can disable forcing the time on the server. I fly FSX-boxed and steam and P3D. And as far as having a go-to destination where it is light, I do not wish to fly in other countries. I live in the US, and I prefer to fly in the US. I will occasionally fly in other countries during group flights, but that is not where I prefer to fly. And I understand how to use the map to see where the light is, and understand how the -7 hours affects the time across the country. I get that. For your posts to question me like you have makes me feel like you think I don't know what I'm talking about. You clearly don't understand what I was asking. I even stated that what I see when I log on is accurate to what your map is showing, so I know to expect night time where I want to fly. I was only asking if there is any way I can change the sim time on my end to give me daylight when connecting to your server gives me night time. That is all I was asking. I don't need a lecture on how the map works on msFlights.net home page, or what time the servers are set to, or where I can fly when it is dark where I wanted to fly, especially across multiple posts
This last post really upsets me, we are only trying to help you and come to a conclusion. Sorry for not telling you No upfront since that's the answer you wanted. A small handful of staff can, That's why we were trying to get the big picture about the situation. We also clearly understand what you want! and we are trying to piece it together to help you! Try getting this type of helpful response from other places. Remember, we are hosting servers(computers that use power that has to be paid for, and internet, that has to be paid for), That is up basically 24/7 for you to use for FREE! So we can all fly together. Isn't that so nice and awesome! Also the staff that are trying to help you here are all volunteering their time to help you. If you are not going to appreciate the responses, then consider what you are asking before posting. Now I feel insulted by trying to help you from your response. Also, if you knew what you were talking about, you would know that users cannot naturally change the time on a multiplayer server hosted by FSX, client or host side. In order for this to be change, the server has to be shut down and restarted with desired time.
Also Google and other search engines are your friend. This is how I found FS Real Time. It may or may not work. But at least I tried helping. And if it works let us know, if not please don't post about it.(other than a simple it doesn't work)
And remember, We are trying to help you, Its quite rude for someone to be disrespectful when asking for help: "You clearly don't understand what I was asking."
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How can a pilot change time in multiplayer? Help may be at hand! :eagerness:
It's possible that, one day soon, we'll start running our multiplayer servers with one of the multi-platform concurrency programs we're testing. Those allow players from many different flight simulators - FSX classic, Steam, P3D, X-plane - to fly together and see each other. When this will happen I don't know, but hopefully it could be soon.
So what? Well, even though that concurrency is good by itself, there's a nice side-effect of these multi-platform systems - at least of the ones I've seen - that you might like. When you start your simulator with these systems, you do so in free flight mode - in other words, in single player mode - not multiplayer. Only then do you connect to the rest of the system and see everyone else, and they see you.
How does this help? Because your simulator thinks you're in single player, you can change your time of day whenever you like, something you can't normally do in conventional multi-player! This won't affect anyone else: they will see the time of day that they've set up, without it affecting you, and yet you'll still all be flying together.
(Another benefit of this system: you can very quickly change your aircraft, if you want to, without leaving and rejoining the session - something else you can't do in conventional multi-player.)
Stay tuned!
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Ok, ok; no need for lengthier posts. I definitely danced around the short answer of "No." But, I could have just come out and said it and left it at that because I know 988 spends a lot of time flying and, per his suggestion, a "no" would deter him from enjoying that flying while hanging out with us. I didn't want that.
So, instead, I got overly helpful and never answered the initial question, as was clearly pointed out. (I didn't even realize I was doing that.)
But, I'm glad Storm chimed in. Good point!
Tangentially, I'm very much opposed to forcing use of any applications (even FSX isn't a requirement to just hang out and talk flight simming with us, in my opinion). Therefore, I'm pre-disposed to being anti-fsCloud. But, Storm makes a good point that it could allow client-side time management to suit a pilot's needs.Take the time, a second to soar; for soon after, beckons a second more.
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I sincerely apologize to everyone here in these forums, especially to those who responded to try and help me. I know you were only trying to help, and I thank you for trying. My choice of words for your responses came out more aggressive than I meant to. I had asked if there was a way for me to change the time on my end, and instead I got responses about you changing the server time, and how you can't accommodate everyone with the server times. I got mad because I felt you thought I was asking you to change the server time to accommodate me so I would not have to fly in the dark, when all I was asking was if there was a way that I could change the time on my end, so my response was a bit heated, and for that I am really sorry. I don't know much about the actual servers and how they work. But I know you can control the time. Isn't there a way to turn off "forced time" on the servers though? I've only occasionally flown on servers like yours. Most of the time I've flown on "FSHost" servers, and there are options to "force time", and that can be turned off. I'm guessing on your type of servers this is not an option.
Originally posted by Travis View PostTo be more direct, No, there isn't a way for you to change the time when you set up your flight on our servers. What can we do? We probably wont change it unless it gets a majority approval, however you can try this if you want to: FSX FS Real Time Download and use at your own risk. I have not used nor tested this.
No, FS Real Time won't work, because the time I am on line, the location I fly at is still in the dark. Thank you for the suggestion though.
Now I feel insulted by trying to help you from your response. Also, if you knew what you were talking about, you would know that users
cannot naturally change the time on a multiplayer server hosted by FSX, client or host side. In order for this to be change, the server has to be shut down and restarted with desired time.
Also Google and other search engines are your friend. This is how I found FS Real Time. It may or may not work. But at least I tried helping. And if it works let us know, if not please don't post about it.(other than a simple it doesn't work)
And remember, We are trying to help you, Its quite rude for someone to be disrespectful when asking for help: "You clearly don't understand what I was asking."
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Apology accepted. I am happy to see this was just all some miscommunication as I know you are a good member to our community. Also you can't use FS Real Time, I tested it and the server will not let you change the time. It always reverts to -7. Would have been a good tool. I would be more than happy to change the secondary server to a requested time zone for you if you are planning on flying with someone, Otherwise I recommend you fly in single player, their usually isn't many people flying that late at night. If we can be more helpful to you just let us know!
See ya in the air!
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Originally posted by N85988 View PostBut I know you can control the time. Isn't there a way to turn off "forced time" on the servers though?
There is no way to shut off the force time option, it is built into the multiplayer system, the reason FSHost works is because it runs through single player.[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RrDpHEG.jpg[/IMG]
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Originally posted by N85988 View Postokay, thank for your reply. I guess I'll need to find other places to fly.
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I used to alot, but quite a few years ago. That was back when I had alot of addons for other countries, as I get bored flying over default scenery. Lately I have not because I have been trying to streamline the size of my sim and only add scenery to areas I intend to return to, and places I am familiar with. My goal these past few years has been to explore every square foot of the United States, since this is where I live. So the only times I've flown in other countries is when I'm flying with other pilots. I have seen some really beautiful scenery here and there. It looks like I'll be spending more times in other countries exploring new areas as long as I stay with these servers, which I don't really mind. In fact, I may find a new place or two that might keep me exploring over and over again. I'm definitely open to suggestions. Thank you.
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